So, You Want to Come to a WAN Party?

This week we had:

Tonight's WAN party attendees:

Sara Chipps(me)!

Tobin Titus

Lloyd Humphreys

Nick Berardi

Nathan Kelley

Kevin Griffin

James Thigpen

Dane O'Connor

Brian Papa

Teh Norm

James Pendarvis

 This weeks topics are: "Do you think technical interviews are beneficial?", "Are comments (and regions) a code smell?", "Google Wave and Bing Buzz"

Please excuse our audio troubles, and my chomping. This is the first time we are publishing. Thanks to everyone who took part. I am including the text chat below the link, so you can follow along if needed, but it should be fine without. The only things you might want to see is Nick Berardi's code snippet which we discuss.

Oh, and the comment I left yesterday:  'This is really ugly code, I will hopefully fix later

I don't know how this comes accross entertainment-wise, feel free to leave suggestions.

WAN PARTY DELICIOUSNESS

[6/3/2009 7:31:04 PM] *** Sara Chipps added Kevin Griffin, Nathan Kelley, Nick Berardi, Norm, Dane O'Connor, Tobin Titus ***

[6/3/2009 7:31:07 PM] *** Conference call, duration 1:34:50 ***

[6/3/2009 7:31:37 PM] Norm: Yeah solid echo

[6/3/2009 7:32:06 PM] *** Sara Chipps added James Thigpen ***

[6/3/2009 7:32:09 PM] Norm: yay trains!

[6/3/2009 7:32:29 PM] Nathan Kelley: Lloyd Humphreys said he's having trouble talking to you sara

[6/3/2009 7:32:40 PM] *** Sara Chipps added Lloyd Humphreys ***

[6/3/2009 7:32:49 PM] Dane O'Connor: omg

[6/3/2009 7:32:52 PM] Dane O'Connor: whats going on?

[6/3/2009 7:33:04 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: hey

[6/3/2009 7:33:16 PM] Nathan Kelley: i thought you got arrested for that kind of stuff

[6/3/2009 7:33:25 PM] Tobin Titus: me too

[6/3/2009 7:33:25 PM] *** Missed conference call. ***

[6/3/2009 7:33:51 PM] *** Call ended ***

[6/3/2009 7:34:30 PM] Dane O'Connor: sounds like we're in an empty staduim?

[6/3/2009 7:34:47 PM] *** Sara Chipps added James Pendarvis ***

[6/3/2009 7:35:11 PM] *** Sara Chipps added brian papa ***

[6/3/2009 7:35:21 PM] *** Tobin Titus has changed the conversation topic to "Technical interviews" ***

[6/3/2009 7:41:42 PM] Norm: sounds good

[6/3/2009 7:41:56 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: Now I can't hear Sara :P

[6/3/2009 7:42:30 PM] Dane O'Connor: lost ya

[6/3/2009 7:42:36 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: ditto

[6/3/2009 7:42:36 PM] Nathan Kelley: same

[6/3/2009 7:42:39 PM] Dane O'Connor: back

[6/3/2009 7:42:41 PM] Sara Chipps: I can hear?

[6/3/2009 7:48:34 PM] James Pendarvis: Lost Sara

[6/3/2009 7:48:35 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: gone

[6/3/2009 7:48:36 PM] Dane O'Connor: losing ya

[6/3/2009 7:48:41 PM] Norm: lol

[6/3/2009 7:48:46 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: back

[6/3/2009 7:55:48 PM] Dane O'Connor: as an aside. r u a consultant Nick?

[6/3/2009 7:56:00 PM] James Pendarvis: Who here is an employee and who is a consultant?

[6/3/2009 7:56:10 PM] Tobin Titus: I'm an employee now :)

[6/3/2009 7:56:13 PM] Sara Chipps: consulting now

[6/3/2009 7:56:18 PM] brian papa: I'm an employee but I dabbled in consulting

[6/3/2009 7:56:30 PM] James Thigpen: I'm at some nebulous halfway point between the two.  Employed but seeking consulting.

[6/3/2009 7:56:46 PM] Dane O'Connor: employee with consulting about 10-12 hrs a week

[6/3/2009 7:57:01 PM] Norm: More entrepreneur than employee as of now.

[6/3/2009 7:58:05 PM] Norm: So many life lessons in that one!

[6/3/2009 7:58:08 PM] Dane O'Connor: nathan breakin up

[6/3/2009 7:58:11 PM] Nathan Kelley: cue the beavis and butthed

[6/3/2009 7:58:15 PM] Tobin Titus: :)

[6/3/2009 7:59:03 PM] *** Tobin Titus has changed the conversation topic to "Commenting code smell" ***

[6/3/2009 7:59:25 PM] Nathan Kelley: /* no comment */

[6/3/2009 7:59:30 PM] Tobin Titus: lol

[6/3/2009 7:59:37 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: :D

[6/3/2009 8:03:22 PM] Norm: Personally would agree with Sarah if there are excessive or useless comments

[6/3/2009 8:04:16 PM] Tobin Titus: throw new NoEffinWayException()

[6/3/2009 8:04:30 PM] Dane O'Connor: breakin up

[6/3/2009 8:04:34 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: ditto

[6/3/2009 8:04:35 PM] Nathan Kelley: lag

[6/3/2009 8:04:36 PM] brian papa: static

[6/3/2009 8:04:41 PM] Dane O'Connor: NJ connection sux!

[6/3/2009 8:04:44 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: better

[6/3/2009 8:04:45 PM] Tobin Titus: breakin up is hard to do

[6/3/2009 8:04:51 PM] Tobin Titus: but sara keeps doing it

[6/3/2009 8:05:17 PM] Tobin Titus: lol

[6/3/2009 8:05:39 PM] Norm: lol

[6/3/2009 8:06:56 PM] Tobin Titus: as an aside, some code that I commented in 5 years ago just broke after running at a bank without a single error for 5 years... however, the fact that it broke exactly where my comment was... is almost proof for sara

[6/3/2009 8:07:07 PM] Sara Chipps: yesssss!

[6/3/2009 8:07:30 PM] Tobin Titus: I just tweeted about that earlier this week

[6/3/2009 8:08:16 PM] Dane O'Connor: quirks = +1 on comments

[6/3/2009 8:09:00 PM] Nick Berardi: Type targetType = typeof(NameValueCollection);

// get the property for setting readability

PropertyInfo isReadOnlyProperty = targetType.GetProperty("IsReadOnly", BindingFlags.Instance | BindingFlags.NonPublic);

// set headers as read and write

isReadOnlyProperty.SetValue(context.Request.Headers, false, null);

ArrayList list = new ArrayList();

list.Add(value);

// get the method to fill in the headers

MethodInfo filleInHeadersCollectionMethod = targetType.GetMethod("BaseSet", BindingFlags.Instance | BindingFlags.NonPublic, null, new Type[] { typeof(string), typeof(object) }, null);

filleInHeadersCollectionMethod.Invoke(context.Request.Headers, new object[] { name, list });

// set headers as read only

isReadOnlyProperty.SetValue(context.Request.Headers, true, null);

[6/3/2009 8:09:17 PM] Sara Chipps: this is the last comment I wrote (in VB.NET)

[6/3/2009 8:09:18 PM] Sara Chipps:    'This is really ugly code, I will hopefully fix later

[6/3/2009 8:09:32 PM] Tobin Titus: lol

[6/3/2009 8:11:23 PM] Dane O'Connor: haha

[6/3/2009 8:11:24 PM] Dane O'Connor: yeah

[6/3/2009 8:11:42 PM] Norm: lol

[6/3/2009 8:12:40 PM] James Pendarvis: pastie.org right?

[6/3/2009 8:14:20 PM] Dane O'Connor: // Magic. Do not touch.

[6/3/2009 8:20:24 PM] Tobin Titus: back

[6/3/2009 8:20:47 PM] James Thigpen: Some bad smells are really tasty cheese.

[6/3/2009 8:21:12 PM] Tobin Titus: #region

/// <summary> code smell here </summary>

#endregion

[6/3/2009 8:21:18 PM] Dane O'Connor: haha

[6/3/2009 8:22:04 PM] Tobin Titus: I have to be honest. I used to be a HUGe abuser of regions

[6/3/2009 8:23:31 PM] Dane O'Connor: // --- Methods | My Group

[6/3/2009 8:23:39 PM] *** Tobin Titus has changed the conversation topic to "stinky code with regions, and comments as code smells" ***

[6/3/2009 8:23:45 PM] Dane O'Connor: // --- Impl | Idispoable

[6/3/2009 8:24:10 PM] Nick Berardi: even with the mis-spelling and everything :D

[6/3/2009 8:24:14 PM] Dane O'Connor: :)

[6/3/2009 8:24:16 PM] Dane O'Connor: too fast

[6/3/2009 8:24:36 PM] Tobin Titus: like HTTP_REFERER <-- spehlt rowng

[6/3/2009 8:24:53 PM] Nick Berardi: I usually do

[6/3/2009 8:25:05 PM] Nick Berardi: #region exec sp_MyProc

[6/3/2009 8:25:14 PM] Nick Berardi: all the command related connection stuff

[6/3/2009 8:25:17 PM] Nick Berardi: #endregion

[6/3/2009 8:25:24 PM] Sara Chipps: #region methods

[6/3/2009 8:25:30 PM] Tobin Titus: #region Pandora's Box - do not expand

#endregion

[6/3/2009 8:25:31 PM] Sara Chipps: #region code

[6/3/2009 8:25:38 PM] Nick Berardi: LOL nice tobin

[6/3/2009 8:27:07 PM] *** Tobin Titus has changed the conversation topic to "Magical Elixors Framework" ***

[6/3/2009 8:27:40 PM] Norm: Awesome!

[6/3/2009 8:28:13 PM] Tobin Titus: I'm waiting for some to hold the following at a code camp:  "MEF Lab"

[6/3/2009 8:28:42 PM] Tobin Titus: in the same mall?

[6/3/2009 8:29:17 PM] James Thigpen: it's an hour and 20 minutes

[6/3/2009 8:29:25 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: oh gWave seems pretty cool :D

[6/3/2009 8:29:41 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: I've been off school with pretty bad sunburn, so I've watched it ;)

[6/3/2009 8:29:49 PM] Tobin Titus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ ?

[6/3/2009 8:29:53 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: it's pretty cool, yeah

[6/3/2009 8:30:27 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: there're some really cool concepts

[6/3/2009 8:30:44 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: like, you can take a "Wave" to your blog and embed it there etc

[6/3/2009 8:31:10 PM] James Thigpen: it'd look AWESOME

[6/3/2009 8:31:21 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: not a clue - nothing in the video about it

[6/3/2009 8:31:36 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: I imagine it'll be pretty solidly integrated with Android

[6/3/2009 8:31:50 PM] Tobin Titus: http://wave.google.com/

[6/3/2009 8:32:11 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: yeah

[6/3/2009 8:32:11 PM] Tobin Titus: http://wave.google.com/help/wave/about.html <-- screenshots

[6/3/2009 8:32:33 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: lost you

[6/3/2009 8:32:37 PM] Tobin Titus: lag

[6/3/2009 8:32:37 PM] Nathan Kelley: lag all

[6/3/2009 8:32:43 PM] Dane O'Connor: NJ ftl

[6/3/2009 8:32:44 PM] Dane O'Connor: !

[6/3/2009 8:32:46 PM] Tobin Titus: maybe the dingo ate your baby

[6/3/2009 8:34:28 PM] James Thigpen: Everytime I hear bing I think Chandler

[6/3/2009 8:34:31 PM] Tobin Titus: Cannibis lovers can search bong.bing.com

[6/3/2009 8:34:53 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: yup

[6/3/2009 8:36:27 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: for me, in ff3, that preview thing only works for one of the results and then doesn't work for any of the others?

[6/3/2009 8:36:33 PM] Sara Chipps: me too

[6/3/2009 8:36:34 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: lag

[6/3/2009 8:36:38 PM] Nick Berardi: is the travel feature from Kayak.com

[6/3/2009 8:36:55 PM] Tobin Titus: I'm in FF3 and it works fine

[6/3/2009 8:36:57 PM] Tobin Titus: yeah

[6/3/2009 8:37:00 PM] Tobin Titus: I think so

[6/3/2009 8:37:04 PM] Nathan Kelley: it's pretty accurate too, it says the red wings are 2 wins away from another cup

[6/3/2009 8:37:21 PM] Nathan Kelley: that didn't sound right

[6/3/2009 8:37:36 PM] Nathan Kelley: it said the wings won the 2009 stanly cup finals 4-1

[6/3/2009 8:38:13 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: yeah

[6/3/2009 8:38:29 PM] Tobin Titus: lol Nathan... shut your mouth son!

[6/3/2009 8:38:46 PM] Tobin Titus: There is no accuracy in that .. Pens will win again tomorrow!

[6/3/2009 8:38:55 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: I know Bing is great for newbs - if you look for NHL and it gives you related stuff like NHL tickets or something.. thing is, if I want the stuff in the related searches, I'll *search* for the related searches :P

[6/3/2009 8:39:09 PM] Sara Chipps: hahah, nice

[6/3/2009 8:39:43 PM] Tobin Titus: what about if we gave you a para quarters in stead?

[6/3/2009 8:39:50 PM] Nick Berardi: Tobin you have a really loud keyboard

[6/3/2009 8:40:00 PM] James Pendarvis: What are you using either service for?

[6/3/2009 8:41:11 PM] Sara Chipps: searching?

[6/3/2009 8:42:19 PM] Tobin Titus: http://twitpic.com/6jm02

[6/3/2009 8:43:08 PM] *** Tobin Titus has changed the conversation topic to "Twitter, Bing, Google, Searching, Symantic Web" ***

[6/3/2009 8:43:16 PM] *** Tobin Titus has changed the conversation topic to "Twitter, Bing, Google, Searching, Semantic Web" ***

[6/3/2009 8:43:18 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: give you free money

[6/3/2009 8:43:23 PM] Nick Berardi: PAY ME PER SEARCH

[6/3/2009 8:43:29 PM] Dane O'Connor: lol

[6/3/2009 8:43:31 PM] Sara Chipps: hahaha I love free money

[6/3/2009 8:43:31 PM] Dane O'Connor: omg

[6/3/2009 8:43:33 PM] Tobin Titus: Nick , they sorta tried that

[6/3/2009 8:43:35 PM] Norm: Has anyone used http://www.wolframalpha.com/ ?

[6/3/2009 8:43:37 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: yeah

[6/3/2009 8:44:09 PM] *** Tobin Titus has changed the conversation topic to "Paul Wolfowitz's new search engine" ***

[6/3/2009 8:44:59 PM] Norm: lol - right, it seems useful at some point but a bit unrefined

[6/3/2009 8:45:37 PM] Norm: true

[6/3/2009 8:46:23 PM] James Thigpen: I'm gonna make bing my default search engine in chrome for a few days, see what happens.

[6/3/2009 8:46:36 PM] Nathan Kelley: if people at work ask me search related questions i use http://lmgtfy.com/

[6/3/2009 8:47:36 PM] *** Tobin Titus has changed the conversation topic to "Talking to computer classes" ***

[6/3/2009 8:48:28 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: we have such boring computer classes here :(

[6/3/2009 8:49:25 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: thats wicked

[6/3/2009 8:50:13 PM] Norm: those are the best!!

[6/3/2009 8:50:15 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: :P

[6/3/2009 8:51:41 PM] *** Tobin Titus has changed the conversation topic to "Lego Mindstorm" ***

[6/3/2009 8:51:42 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: I was always more of a Meccano man

[6/3/2009 8:51:58 PM] brian papa: http://www.makerbot.com/

[6/3/2009 8:52:09 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: anybody played with Arduino?

[6/3/2009 8:52:55 PM] Nathan Kelley: http://www.nathanblevins.com/

[6/3/2009 8:53:01 PM] Tobin Titus: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/robotics/default.aspx

[6/3/2009 8:53:41 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: just been playing with WAlpha - try Searching your DOB

[6/3/2009 8:55:22 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: sweet, I'm 815 weeks old :D

[6/3/2009 8:55:50 PM] James Pendarvis: Great..my B-day was the date of the Charles Manson Murders

[6/3/2009 8:55:53 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: I <3 Greys Anatomy :P

[6/3/2009 8:55:58 PM] Nick Berardi: so you want to cut off the recording, since this has degraded in to geeks searching wolfram alpha

[6/3/2009 8:56:08 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: haha

[6/3/2009 8:56:36 PM] Tobin Titus: http://wolframsbeta.com/

[6/3/2009 8:57:16 PM] Norm: or replay the awesome echo laughs

[6/3/2009 8:57:17 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: thats great

[6/3/2009 8:57:34 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: wtf is twiffleball?

[6/3/2009 8:57:59 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: wtf is wiffleball? :P

[6/3/2009 8:58:26 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: yeah

[6/3/2009 8:58:36 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: (y)

[6/3/2009 8:58:45 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: gotcha

[6/3/2009 8:59:09 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: if anybody feels like buying me a plane ticket I'll come on over :P

[6/3/2009 8:59:28 PM] Tobin Titus: "I did it like this. I did it like that. I did it with a wiffleball bat." ... see that just makes no sense.

[6/3/2009 8:59:58 PM] Tobin Titus: http://www.fmcarenas.com/img/wiffleball.jpg

[6/3/2009 9:01:11 PM] Nick Berardi: its all about hte networking

[6/3/2009 9:01:47 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: www.managingthegray.com is great for social media stuff - you'd be surprised

[6/3/2009 9:02:07 PM] Dane O'Connor: tobin!

[6/3/2009 9:02:14 PM] Nick Berardi: what is going on over there

[6/3/2009 9:02:54 PM] Nick Berardi: it's not April 1st anymore Sara

[6/3/2009 9:02:59 PM] Nick Berardi: you don't have to beleive everything

[6/3/2009 9:03:44 PM] brian papa: i'm gonna head out guys, had fun

[6/3/2009 9:03:50 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: bye

[6/3/2009 9:03:51 PM] Tobin Titus: see ya

[6/3/2009 9:03:51 PM] Dane O'Connor: cya bri

[6/3/2009 9:05:05 PM] Nathan Kelley: http://netcave.org/

[6/3/2009 9:05:16 PM] James Thigpen: thanks everyone

[6/3/2009 9:05:19 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: catch you soon :)

[6/3/2009 9:05:30 PM] Nathan Kelley: http://netcave.org/ct.ashx?id=8335804e-124b-4825-9292-2851bcba38bb&url=http%3a%2f%2fvimeo.com%2f3898804

[6/3/2009 9:05:57 PM] Norm: Yup same. Been great!

[6/3/2009 9:05:59 PM] Lloyd Humphreys: bye!

[6/3/2009 9:06:01 PM] *** Call ended ***

[6/3/2009 9:06:25 PM] *** Tobin Titus has left ***